Tiger and Crane Double Form. Lam Sai Wing. Andrew Timofeevich. Master of Hung Gar style Alexander Popov. I am happy that I have earned the love of my tutors who passed on me the Shaolin Mastery…".
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But I found out that there is an extra form called Ng Ying Kuen. So my question is, is my Sifu wrong or that site I looked up wrong?? Nobody is wrong in this case. Sup Ying Kuen just adds five more lines of moves. And some branches don't do sup ying at all. So what's traditional Hung Gar?? So what do you guys study?? Even just one form, like gung ji, can give you plenty to study and train.
Anything else is really just bonus or extra. Ng ying kuen was "created" by Wong Fei Hung. Later Lam Sai Wing added the five elements and the form became the Sap ying kuen. So the reason that the Tang Fung lineages do not practise Sap Ying is that Tang Fung did not learn this form, because it didn't exist yet. Chan Hon Chung did the same, but only for his foreign students e. Yim Uglow in London. Charris, I'll disagree with you on this one until I find better info. I find it pretty unusual that Jim Uglow does this form, but perhaps he learned it from an outside source.
Maybe a likely story would be that Chiu Kao learned it from someone in the Tang Fung lineage? Guys it is not some mystery, the forms are exactly the same except the addition of the five new lines elements section. Hell, the end is exactly that of Fu Hok!! Hello, please excuse me if this is not the thread to post this to and if so, kindly point me in the right direction , but has anyone heard of Hung Mun?
I think it was a triad system but somehow got absorbed into traditional Canton Hung, especially in Taiwan. Is this true?
Anyone know? How different or similar is it to Canton Hung? So what does your Sifu teaches you guys?? What forms does he teach?? Cause I heard that Hung Gar concentrates on strong stances and powerful hand techniques.
Tek- the way we build our stances is by holding them for long periods of time. It's something that is not a secret and all MA's utilize this. Basically its one of the things you can't get around so you might at as well "eat bitter" and just do it. The powerful hand techniques come from the bridge work that is found throughout hung gar. Thx for the info IllusionFist and sorry guys I ask so many questions. I'm kind of new in CMA and don't know too much about this art. Also where is Prarie Girl?
As for the creation of Sap Ying Kuen. If you have heard any other stories on this , let me know. First build a bridge and then cross it with horse. Basically, you use your bridge hand to connect to the oponent and your stance work to get close enough to strike.
Tek- I don't go to the dragonslist too much anymore. School's started so i don't have much time for chatting. But I think it has been out of print for some time. Sorry, I rarely go to dragonslist chat anymore. It's usually pretty dead. There is a new site out there, www. Overdemon, you're from Suriname? I have a high school friend who was born and raised in Guyana and Suriname. I wouldn't mind talking to you in email. Just so happens I'm back from visiting my si-gung Lum Jo and asked this very question.
That's it. This is not a core Hung Gar set. I don't know much about the creation of this set. Don't forget Mok Kwai Lan kuan. I'm just curious, do any of you have Jeet kuan arrow hand added to your system? Or Lohan kuan?
It just so happens that i know the mizong lohan my jhong law horn version of jeet kuen and i think Jeet Kuen in itself is reserved for northern styles. The guys at our club purchased some of these texts from the ChinWu group that this sifu blongs to. We were happy with what we received. Not trying to advertise for these guys so you can find them at the North Carolina branch of the Chin Wu Athletic Association.
Cheers, Ross. Does anybody know about the lineage of Jamal Al Bakkar? I have seen the books on the internet but it really didn't say anything about lineage or teachers on his website.
I certainly had the impression that he is a traditional stylist. I know that it is important to know these things but if ,for the price of a book, you pick up one or two concepts that enhance your practice then the money is worth it irrespective of lineage or teacher.
Considering some of the crap seminars that people pay for it is nice to see someone trying to just write up something about their branch of the style. You will note that this sifu has made no attempt to promote his books that I can see. Je Lei Sifu:cool:. All rights reserved.
Hung Gar Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen Tiger And Crane Double Form By Lam Sai Wing
But I found out that there is an extra form called Ng Ying Kuen. So my question is, is my Sifu wrong or that site I looked up wrong?? Nobody is wrong in this case. Sup Ying Kuen just adds five more lines of moves. And some branches don't do sup ying at all. So what's traditional Hung Gar??
Hung Gar Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen Tiger and Crane Double Form by Lam Sai Wing
It is the first form which is taught to the practising as it contains all the basic techniques of the style as low kicks, hold techniques, punchs, techniques with opened hands, blocked and the "kiu sao". It is necessary training hard to execute this form well because it is very long and difficult. It helps the executor's determination and forms the character; physically strengthens him and the student starts learning to check the respiration well. Read Article. Home Page.